Thursday, December 22, 2005

In Defense of The Kids

Well as long as things are already controversial, let’s just do it up. It was happenstance which sent me hurdling into The Michael Jackson trial. I kept my mind, my eyes and my heart open and I emerged a lot more enlightened, a little bit stronger and a whole lot more aware of the human capacity to spiral out of reason into a place where logic is twisted in upon itself.

I’m writing this to help myself sort things out. I am trying to determine what I’m supposed to do… something or nothing or something in between?

What’s happening right now is that the family of the young accuser is under attack. The weapon of choice is the internet. What I’m deciding to do here is return fire.

Star and Gavin

The boy, Gavin was living under a new name, Anton in a new town. He had just turned 16 years old. He and his brother, Star, 15, now going as Daniel are both High School Freshmen on the JV Football team. Since the trial, this family has not said a word publicly, nor have they attempted in any fashion to profit from the unfortunate events. They wanted only to return to what little normalcy they could find, following such an enormous episode.

Star

They were beginning to feel safe and accepted. Their step-father, Jay had shipped out for a year in Iraq. Their mother, Janet is expecting a baby in January. A few days before Thanksgiving, either a Michael Jackson fan or employee posted a blog under the assumed identity of Gavin, Using his new name, Anton, and revealing his identity as Michael Jackson’s young accuser.

This imposter posted pictures taken from the school’s web site and from stalker photographers who had followed the boys during the trial. He then went to Anton and Daniel’s My Space pages, and emailed all of their friends with a link to the blog.

Gavin and Star had to walk into school the following morning knowing that everybody knew.

A “fan” is now appearing on the boys’ school campus, posing as a CIA agent and asking kids if they know Anton. This stranger is saying cruel, vicious things about Anton and asking the children to spread these stories around school.

The trial has been over for six months. Michael Jackson was acquitted and he left the country for Bahrain. The family of the young accuser tucked themselves back into their little community. They were flooded by interview requests, book offers, knocks on the door from reporters. They have refused to talk to anyone. They want no money and no attention and yet the battle rages on, but why, and who is waging it?

I think that in most heated debates, there are several ways to look at something and our view on any given issue is informed by basic ideologies we adopt and adapt as we learn and grow. Issues such as abortion and corporal punishment can be honestly and heatedly discussed with no one answer being completely correct. These topics are sensitive and complicated and many believe there is only one answer, but to me, they are "hot button issues," precisely because the two sides are worthy opponents.

On the issue of Michael Jackson, however, there is a finite truth. Either he did it or he didn't. And since we don't know for certain, it does, like the other hotly contested issues come down to a belief. The people who firmly believe that he didn't do it, and could never do it begin and end their day with that tenet as the basis for all reasoning that follows. My trouble with this is that their belief in his innocence has become a religious calling and anything they do in service to that belief is, in their view, righteous... Be it hollering "INNOCENT!" outside a courthouse or slandering a child and his family.

I believed the boy, my friend, before the trial. After seeing the evidence presented in court, I now believe resoundingly beyond any personal doubt that Michael Jackson is guilty. The fans and I, have different beliefs. However, I do not, nor would I ever consider taunting or harassing them or their loved ones. It would be pleasant if they showed the same respect. But they don’t and they won't. They will continue their smear campaign in service to their idol. It's dangerous for any among us to place so much faith in a person we don't even know.

My view and my belief in this boy and the veracity of the State’s case is firmly intact and it will not be swayed by anything I read or hear. For those who believe Michael, their faith is just as strong. However, harming the children doesn't help Michael. The fact that they think it does, is what saddens me.

This family very bravely went forward and testified in a criminal case against one of the most popular and powerful figures in show business. They have read a lot of ugly untruths about themselves here on the internet. They are, in fact, fine, decent, loving people who tried to do the right thing so that no other child would be hurt. They now would like to be left in peace.

If you wish to lend your support and let them know that they are not in this fight alone, please post a comment here.

This is not a forum to debate the case. All such posts will be deleted. Thank you.

155 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do believe the kids, but also think that in the interests of protecting what little privacy they have, the photos of them on your site should be taken down. It doesn't help matters when they are trying to stay anonymous.

4:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Louise, I can understand what you say, but you have to realize that for Michael's fans, saying you believe he is a child molestor is, to us, slandering someone WE LOVE.

But it is difficult for us to feel for you when you and those you defend lie so much. For example, in this very post you said that Gavin was going by a "new" name, Anton. Which is NOT true. Anton is and has always been his middle name. Everyone knew that. So, if you want respect, start by being completely honest and not twisting the facts.

4:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe you put pictures of Gavin and Star up on your site! What are you going to tell Gavin who those pictures turn up on "Anton's Blog" with some new joke about them?

4:25 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

The family approved these photos. Their cover has been blown. They are no longer able to be anonymous.

Only extreme fans knew his middle name. The point is this... his friends didn't know he was the young accuser. He wanted it to remain that way until he graduated.

Trying to claim that Gavin did this to himself is a waste of type strokes.

4:29 PM  
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5:06 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

These pictures are here in support of the family. If you choose to use them negatively to attack two teenagers, that reveals that much more of who you are.

5:14 PM  
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5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You deleted a lot of posts that had no negativity towards the kids, just pointing out factural errors in your post. Why?

Deleting the other side of the story says a lot about who YOU are.

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fans have a blog to air their case and their feelings about this subject. They don't need to post here. I've read the fans' side of the case and I still believe Gavin and his family. None of you will ever change my mind nor will you change the minds of all the people I know who support these kids.

To Gavin and your family:
Bless you for standing up and telling the world who you are and what happened to you. It took a lot of courage to do that. You did the right thing. Don't let people who hide behind screen names get the best of you. They are cowards. I, and many other people, wish you good luck, good health and a happy life. You deserve it. Stay strong and live well. The Military community supports you and cares about you.

Merry Christmas and a better New Year!

Your friend,
Shelley T.

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6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The hardcore fans are, and will always be a bunch of losers. To endanger a child for the adoration of someone who is a fallen, has-been pop star, is just ridiculous. As per the fan that feels someone is slandering someone they love, get a freaking grip, Michael Jackson is only concerned about lining his pockets with your money and adoring his spotted ass.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU ARE SO FUNNY!NEVER WANTED TO JOIN A COMEDY LAUGHING SCHOOL???
"HARD CORE FAN LOSERS"!AH AH AH!!!
MICAHEL JACKSON ..A HAS BEEN AH AH AH!!
YOU CRACK ME UP!!!STOP STOP PLEASE!YOU ARE KILLING ME!!!

7:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gavin's actions since the trial have been commendable and show how truthful he is/was.

I believe him, and so does most of America. It's sickening that someone who's been brave enough to do what's right has to now endure harrassment by a few delusional fans.


I hope 2006 will be a bright and happy year for Gavin and his family.

Sincerely,

Kris T.

7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've worked with teenage boys for more than a decade, and from experience know that Gavin is telling the truth.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

There are no factual errors in my post. I believe that is your polite way of calling me a liar, isn't it?

My blog entry is designed to show support for the family. All posts which don't reflect that sentiment will be deleted.

7:37 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

Do whatever you wish. You are not using your real name on my blog. You have taken Anton's name to create your blog.

I will do what I wish in support and defense of the kids on my own blog.

7:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a sad fact that the only way to discourage this kind of harrassment will be to bring more attention to to the situation, and thus unwanted attention to the family. I can only hope the gemtleman posing as a CIA agent on school campuses will run afoul of the school police. I don't know law in California, but adults here in Texas can't just enter school campus for any reason, they must be given special permission. I also don't know what laws about stalking consist of, but it seems they could at least swear out a peace bond against the stalker. I feel for the kids, and would be glad to donate to a charity based on their well being. Keep your spirits high, kids. There's a LOT of us 'middle-of-the-road' types that who support you and feel grateful for what you tried to do, Just remember, it wasn't your fault. Try to be a little easy on the hardcore fans, it's 20-something years later and they still don't understand that DISCO IS DEAD. Rehashed disco has no market in the new world, and Mickey needs to come to learn to scale back, get help for his fixations, and MAYBE this doesn't have to end tragically

8:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The person who made that blog is called Req and is the top poster at the KOP board. You can find the kop board at http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/ This Req lunatic has been stalking the kid and his family for ages and is quite proud of finding him and making his life hard. You can find a thead about the blog where "Req" admits to it at: http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?showtopic=14810

8:23 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

Thank You! Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays! Peace to all of us.

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you go to the kop board posted above please beware that it's the most hate filled place you will ever see. The people there are well known for posting death threats to anyone who says anything bad about Jacko.

8:32 PM  
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9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are Gavin and Star in the same year of highschool?

9:18 PM  
Blogger Enadiate said...

When I first loaded this page, the comments were at 29, and as I type this, it is now on 35.

So obviously, I skipped most of the comments.

I think, that even if Gavin was a dirty lying bastard (which I don't believe), that blog would still sicken me to no end.

Have some happy holidays, Louise.

9:18 PM  
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9:21 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

Gavin lost a year fighting Cancer.

9:21 PM  
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9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And once again, I point out how easy it is to change your name legally, which would have been the smart and obvious thing to do if the Arvizo's really wanted to go into hiding. Using your middle name and your step-father's name is not exactly hiding yourself.

And changing their appearance would have been good too.

9:24 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

You know what would have been even better? If you had left them alone.

9:24 PM  
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9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gavin lost a year fighting Cancer
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Oh, right, sorry I should have realized that.

9:28 PM  
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9:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for getting the truth about Michael Jackson out there. You all have suffered for that act and you must know that you're admired for taking on someone known for using his considerable monies and status to bring down anyone who threatens his dark kingdom. Both he, and his clueless fan minions, exist in a world that bears no resemblance to reality. You can take comfort this season in knowing that in spite of the failure of the court system to put this monster away, his demise continues apace... this is why the fans are enraged and wish to harm you — even they know that the end is near. Thanks to you all and God bless you for helping make that horrible end inexorable! Always remember: we believe you!

9:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quick message to the fans: you really shouldn't be spending time here posting tripe. Instead you should all be holding hands, waving candles and gathering your pennies to help your soon-to-be-even-more-worthless idol exist... pancake makeup doesn't grow on trees you know!

Happy holidays, gotta go listen to that Katrina charity single now... lol

9:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know what would have been even better? If you had left them alone.
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That was the most mature thing said on here. But, if I may say so, I think the post here in general was a bit provocative to the MJ fans, as it gives out pictures and much of the same information the fans were criticized for giving out.

If I can make a suggestion to Louise, perhaps if you take down the post and simply make a post about wishing the Arvizo's well at the holidatys, that might be better. Then people can leave messages and well wishes for the family and hopefully some of the angry will die down.

I personally am an MJ fan, and I think he would be disgusted to know his fans are acting in such a way. Michael himself has said before the trial that he didn't blame the children, that he felt Janet and Tom Sneddon were more responsible. So, no matter which side you choose, I would think everyone could agree that Gavin and the kids have been through a lot (whether they stood up for the truth, or whether they were forced to lie by a mother who used them) and I would hope that everyone could agree that they deserve some peace for the holidays, just as MJ does.

Peace and "Heal the World"

9:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just one last thing, before I say goodnight. In his speech at Oxford, Michael said:
"Friends, the foundation of all human knowledge, the beginning of human consciousness, must be that each and every one of us is an object of love.
Before you know if you have red hair or brown, before you know if you are black or white, before you know of what religion you are a part, you have to know that you are loved. "

And with that in mind, I hope that all of the Arvizos (including Jay way over there in Iraq), Louise, and everyone who has written on this blog is loved this holiday season. Enough with the banter and the insults, the trial is over and everyone needs to move on with love in their hearts, not hate.

Peace and "Heal the World"

9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in-between can he dealt with."-MJ

To Gavin and Star, remember the above. Obviously, you are loved, Louise is fighting very hard for you and I'm sure Janet and Jay love you. So, no matter what some of the less mature MJ fans post on blogs, it won't bother you if you are pure in your heart. Don't let them get to you, they'll get bored and move on eventually.

9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uhmm, Ms. Palanker do i detect your vitiol towards facts and dissenting views. Everytime you pull that Stalinistic apprach I will repost. So tell your admin to keep the delete button on standby. Lat your readers read so THEY can be their own judge. Perhaps more of Dimond has rubbed off on you than I thought. She sure loved herself son Sneddy Boo and Zonin the Persecutor.

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would the MJ fans stop with the childish insults! You're making us all look like nutcases.

"There's a place in your heart, and I know that it is love..."

10:03 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

Anonymous, I will leave your comment complete with all of its wonderfully creative spelling so that I can reiterate why I am deleting posts...

This blog entry was written in support of the kids. Therefore, I will delete anything I find to be not in keeping with the spirit in which I composed the original message.

10:05 PM  
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10:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

**ATTENTION** The more you delete, the more i post it. I feel inspired by your deletions and dictatorship-esque blog.... Uhmm, Ms. Palanker, with all due respect to you and your "OPINION", it's very hypocritical of you to defame and slander Michael Jackson right alongside the gang of tabloid inspired money hungry sack chasers who've made careers off his despair and suffering, knowing it directly affects his KIDS, but for two grifting azz liars your heart melts. Rumours rumours rumours, pipped through the greedy mouthpieces on teevee with visions of "dollar bills" dancing in their heads, thats all you know about the supposed "facts" of any and every allegation. What did you hear in that courtroom? Nothing, other than Tom Meserreau frying your testimony like an egg sunny side up. You were a witness maam so therefore, your readers should have full disclosure that you know as much as they know, which is hardly "&*%@". That gospel singer named Diane Dimond will become a tainted virus in your circles very soon. Write that down Louise. She thrives off of "bombshells" and "smoking-guns", that is, until her sources reveal to her......let that remain a mystery. By the way, did she give you a couple bucks for your contibution to the "spin she pinned" in that "National Enquirer Novel". Ask her how much went to trully abused kids or organizations. Ask here why shed didn't write about her life as a wannabe journalist and the only way she could put food on the table was to drum up "exclusive after exclusive" about Michael Jackson. Tell her MJ helped feed her kids and she should NEVER forget it. EVER!!!!

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't people agree to disagree? Louise clearly stated that it is her "opinion" that Gavin was telling the truth. She is fully entitled to her opinion. She is actually acting pretty mature about the whole thing compared to some people on here.

Now, I personally believe that MJ is innocent. Does that mean I think Gavin and his family are horrible people? No. It means that I think Janet has had a difficult life (and Louise probably knows more about this than me) and she may be a little mentally... unstable as a result. If she was in an abusive relationship and did have a bad relationship with her father, as I think I recall from the trial, then I can certainly see why she would do anything to get herself out of that situation, including commmitting whatever welfare fraud or whatever she has been accused, but not yet convicted of. I hope Louise is right and that the Arvizos have turned over a new page now. I hope they are starting a new life and I hope they have learned from this experience. And I hope Michael has learned from this experience, a person in his position should allow people like this to get that close.

But, now I'm just rambling. Anyway, my point is that the trial is over, MJ is free and justice was done. Why do people want to drag this out?

Peace and "Heal the World"

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally, I think everyone should just move on. Michael had the entire media community and half the country against him. He was tried in a conservative town. Millions of dollars was spent to put him behind bars. . .it didn't happen. And you know what? He didn't run out of the court house screaming "I told you so". He was very mature about the situation. He could have easily told all of his critics to kiss his you know what, but he didn't. He's moved on. Gavin Arvizo is a distant memory to him. Same with the Arvizo's. They lost. But they didn't run and do any interviews to make even more money off the situation. They moved on. So why don't we follow the example of the people who were actually involved in the case and MOVE ON. LET IT GO. Michael's fans have no need to be upset because Michael is free as a bird. He's living in a palace by the Ocean with his family. And Gavin's supporters shouldn't be upset because Gavin is alive, he beat cancer for God's sake. So please people just let it go.

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wacko ran for safety in a country that has no extradition treaty with the US. If he's so innocent, why did he do that?

12:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gavin, I posted this before on Websleuths, don't know if you read there or not, but you and your mother and family have my complete support. I believe you, and I believe your mother. I too was molested at age 13. You don't make this kind of stuff up. Michael Jackson is disgusting and all his money and fame has allowed him to get away with so much. I hope you decide to sue him in civil court and take him for all he's worth

12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MJ fans are hateful, insane, cultish, fanatics. They aren't very smart to begin with, hence their fearful existence in their little f'loon rooms.

Some of the braver wacko fanatics at least had the guts to take their positions to more open forums such as Usenet. They did credit to themselves attempting to defend an inevitably losing position.

The little MJ forum cowards who have been attacking Gavin are nothing more than rodents. All mouth, hate and no substance.

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, jackson is technically not a pedophile. He's a hebephile, or more specifically, a pederast. It really doesn't matter in the long run, if he's any one of the three - he's a molester plain and simple.

All of his victims have accused him of the same thing. Each time he's managed to buy his way out in some manner. The last case went to Mesereau simply because he managed to put the mother on trial, effectively neutering the case of the prosecution. The jurors weren't very smart to begin with, any complexity beyond two steps was lost on them.

There will be plenty of entertainment in the days ahead. Fortress will only put up with jackson's crap for so long before they simply take everything. No doubt the DOJ will find reason to prosecute him for obtaining official documents under a false pretext. Then, we have the various lawsuits to entertain us, including the forgotten NOLA case.

The MJ fans seem to feel that their hero is untouchable in Bahrain. They apparently are totally ignorant to the fact that there are law firms who specialize in this particular area. Anything is possible when you're dealing with lawyers, it just takes a little longer in some cases. While all this is happening, jackson is basically a prisoner, fearful to return to his native country.

1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous wrote:

"If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in-between can he dealt with."-MJ

To Gavin and Star, remember the above."

How insensitive and ignorant of you to quote a line from the very same monster that took so much from Gavin and Star and use it to try to give them hope. Think about the absurdity of what you've just done.

2:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Only extreme fans knew his middle name." - Weezy

Extreme fan or not, anyone who read the court transcripts and followed the trial to a degree greater than listening to soundbytes and pundits on television would know what Gavin's middle name is as it came out in testimony numerous times spread across multiple days.

Honestly though, what kind of witness protection program (as Diane Dimond claims this family is under) would merely take the person's middle name and the step-father's last name (both of which are on public record) and assign it to the person as a new identity? During Star's testimony on March 7th he even named Gavin as "Gavin Anton Jackson." Frankly I am outraged at the State of California if they paid to put this family into witness protection but then did so little to protect their identities.

Having said this, I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday weekend!

3:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jackson has been to London and Paris since leaving the USA, not just Bahrain, Dubai and Oman.

4:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Irrespective of this case, to much of the world (if not all) putting an innocent man through hell in the pursuit of money is completely unacceptable.

A person who does this should be prosecuted for lying, in my eyes. A damaged reputation is a much less severe conclusion.

The accused person suffers a much larger humiliation, even if innocent.

And come on, any one of the millions who watched Michael Jackson's Martin Bashir interview saw Gavin. It only takes ONE of those people to BLOW this WONDEROUS cover the boys have. Fan or not.

4:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UHMMM! Wheezy, I could care less about grammatical errors on a dam blog run by a woman, who i feel has a sincere heart, but also dons very foggy bifocals (sp?) and just can't see the light. How many nasty rude comments has Michael Jackson made about you, or Dimond or Orth or dis-Grace, or Newsom, or Bloom or Allred or Pentos or Murphy or Clark , etc, etc...All female, mostly Jewish. Is there something in your logic about the "allegations" of MJ being antisemitic? Hmm?Once again, if the true "leeches" spin it and twist it then it must be true. Correct? Do you think its fine for your supporters to be slandering this man day in and day out calling him Wacko Jacko? You think it hurts his kids or do you care? They are small kids you know, but I guess your pullpit of "know-it-all" tabloid reading, believing drama queens could give two iotas of &%*@ about that. Ms Palanker, notice how I call you what you WANT to be called, no disrespect, even though I'm passionate in my position. Ask yourself and those that share your logic WHY MJ can't receive the same courtesy, support him or not?

5:45 AM  
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8:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those who believe JANET VENTURA who insisted on being called JANET JACKSON when she testified against a man whose last name happens to be Jackson and who according to her abducted she and her children and raped one of them, is psychologic issues; tell me why is she being prosecuted on 5 counts on fraud by the county of LA!?

JANET is toast and so are her family!!!! She will pay her sins for the rest of her life!!!

8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KRIS T whether you believe Gavin or not is not relevant...

What's relevant is what those jurors believed when they heard Gavin, Star, Daveline and last BUT NOT LEAST Janet, when they were under oath and were exposed!

8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pictures of Gavin and Star that were posted on Anton's blog were taken from the page he built on MySpace!

Talk about wanting to be anonymous!!!

8:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weezy the lesbian that you are really need to get laid!!!

I noticed you were one the day you told the jury you thought David was hotting on you!

Being the ugly bitch that you are, one would have thought you'd be grateful to anyone daring laying their eyes on you!! WRONG, you decide to act like the HOT ish and turned him down...

That day I knew you'd rather have some pussy!!!

Now for real, GET LAID and cut the whinning!

8:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope all of you realize how immature you are acting. Flinging insults does nothing to support your opinion, it only makes you look uneducated and desperate.

And to whoever said MJ went to Bahrain because they have no extradition treaty with the US, I would point out that the royal family of Bahrain has been big supporters and fans of Michael for years and with the death threats he and his children were receieving in the US, anyone in his place would want to go somewhere they feel safe.

Michael and his children are not safe in the US, probably because of people like you. And he has spent time in London and other European cities since the trial ended so your extradition arguement is not valid.

9:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MJ fans are hateful, insane, cultish, fanatics. They aren't very smart to begin with, hence their fearful existence in their little f'loon rooms.

Some of the braver wacko fanatics at least had the guts to take their positions to more open forums such as Usenet. They did credit to themselves attempting to defend an inevitably losing position.

The little MJ forum cowards who have been attacking Gavin are nothing more than rodents. All mouth, hate and no substance.

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You are the very definition of the word HYPOCRITE.

9:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why such hate, fans? Not a single one of you know Michael Jackson, yet you're showing all this hate for someone who is simply exressing an opinion about him. I always thought that Michael Jackson was all about loving everyone and healing the world. I guess I was wrong though. It seems like Michael Jackson and his fans are all about blind hatred for anyone who says anything negative about him. Nazi Party members don't hate the way you fans do. You seem like very sad little people.

9:52 AM  
Blogger Enadiate said...

" Anonymous said...

Weezy the lesbian that you are really need to get laid!!!
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Now for real, GET LAID and cut the whinning!"

Wow, you are.... SO mature. You must really need to get laid...

Anyways, throwing around personal attacks such as calling Weezy unfunny or ugly or questioning her sexual orientation is just gratuitous. These "flames" just show how ludicrous and unintelligent you are.

I'm sorry to any of the people who post anonymously who are actually making rational and nice arguments, yet have to be lumped into a generalization which is making a bunch of incredibly crass and stupid arguments.

9:54 AM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

Thanks, David for your kindness and to each person who came in here to post support for the kids.

If you are a kind, rational person stepping in here for the first time, this is what the children have been up against.

11:20 AM  
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12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David says, "I'm sorry to any of the people who post anonymously who are actually making rational and nice arguments..."

You have to be quick to read them. Weezy's delete button is very busy.

12:43 PM  
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12:47 PM  
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12:55 PM  
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1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gavin and family, rest assured that most of the world believes you. You too, Jordie.

1:02 PM  
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1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's dangerous for any among us to place so much faith in a person we don't even know."

You think you know the Arvizos? The BTK criminal's family thought they knew him, too. Wake up, Weezy, before the Arvizos con you out of another $20,000.

1:36 PM  
Blogger Enadiate said...

"anonymous said...
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You have to be quick to read them. Weezy's delete button is very busy."

Since when is slander nice and rational?

And who really thinks Weezy would want this sort of fame? How has it really changed her popularity since the trials? The only thing I think Weezy got from it was mental anguish and a steady stream of poorly spelled hatemail.

1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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1:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David said, "Since when is slander nice and rational?"

I can assure you there was nothing in my deleted post that was slanderous or even about the Arvizo-Jackson family or defending Michael Jackson.

1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To be persuasive, we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible; to be credible, we must be truthful." Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965)

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David @ Actually, the attention brought by the trial only got her to be exposed for the liar that she is and the stupid ass who let herself be conned by a psycho grifter!

One would indeed question her wanting to keep commenting on Mr Jackson... If I were her I would burry myslef and never ever mention his name again in fear to be reminded of my poor performance but then again, according to Jamie Masada she's far from being a good comedian, so that's really not a surprise now is it?

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Louise, not only what is going on on this blog what the kids have been up against but guess what it's spreading!!!!

We'll make it our duty to make sure that wherever they go they'll be recognized as the liars who falsely accused Michael Jackson while he was helping them out of their shitty life and gave them all they hadn't yet stolen from celebs!!!

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not making excuses these grifters deserve to rot in hell and they sure will...


All you people who talk BS about the case and have no clue what went on in this court house keep talking about Mr Jackson all you want he's free... Janet ain't and she's in big doodoo!!!!

Michael Jackson will soon be on top of the world again!!

Those punks don't deserve any privacy, they didn't care about Mr Jackson's own privacy, and they won't get any!

2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And who really thinks Weezy would want this sort of fame?"

Why would she interview Ron Zonen one of the lead prosecutors on the case and try to be funny cracking up jokes about Mr Jackson??

Why would she interview Diane Dimond and talk about the case??

Why would she come and visit MJ message boards??

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I too was molested at age 13. You don't make this kind of stuff up. Michael Jackson is disgusting and all his money and fame has allowed him to get away with so much. I hope you decide to sue him in civil court and take him for all he's worth "

Michael Jackson had 3 lawyers defending him, Gavin Arvizo had a whole county working to prove his case! Yet they couldn't bring enough evidence to get a jury to come back with a guilty verdict!

Michael Jackson might be disguting, but that court of law said "Michael Jackson didn't rape this kid" the jurors said this woman is a liar and her children lied!!

They are proven con artists, they defrauded the county of LA, took the money while they had plenty of it!!!

They're liars, cheaters and grifters!!!

And please GOD, yes, make them bring a civil lawsuit against Michael Jackson!!! Please, cause this time they're gonna have to pay big bucks!!!!

2:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Gavin and family, rest assured that most of the world believes you. You too, Jordie."

The rest of the world doesn't buy shit from people like Louise Palanker and Janet Arvizo Ventura Jackson...


Hot balloon flights??? Leg wax??? The killers?? Trip to Brazil??? Nah as a matter of fact, I don't even believe the American people would believe any of it had the media done their job!!!

Thank God for the court transcripts!

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I always thought that Michael Jackson was all about loving everyone and healing the world. I guess I was wrong though."

Like you said MJ is about all that... I'm not Michael Jackson, don't speak for no one but me!

2:37 PM  
Blogger Enadiate said...

There is a difference between wanting to be famous and wanting to be heard.

Posting in a forum dedicated to fans of Michael Jackson saying that you believe Michael to be a child molester would not be a way to become famous; that would be "infamy."

At least, among that crowd.

Weezy is entitled to post pictures of Gavin, as she knows him personally. 'Vigilantes' making a slanderous blog and releasing private information about anyone who is trying to remain hidden is disgusting.

I mean, I might find my beliefs being that MJ is a child molester, but I don't stalk him and try to find every detail of his personal life and make an internet journal from a skewed perspective. And I'd consider molestation, of any type, a thousand times worse than cons.

Sure, con artists take material goods, but rapists ruin lives and create more of themselves in society.

My sole purpose here is not to escalate this conflict, but to support Weezy.

And to the person who jumps to the defense of MJ's children; If MJ is in fact a child molester, then how safe are his children if they live with him? And don't say it's unthinkable, everyone knows how fucked up people can be.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Since when is slander nice and rational?"

Do you say the same when it comes to Michael Jackson? Or does the 'let's not slander, and let's be rational' only apply to people that you, and Palanker, like?

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GAVIN ANTON ARVIZO VENTURA JACKSON you're BUSTED!!!!!


Louise for real get laid, I can't believe you can't get one of your wanna be comedians to give it to you (well not really I mean take a look in the mirror, it makes it pretty clear why they wouldn't want to touch you)!!

You call us a bunch of brainless losers for following Michael Jackson, some for reason I'd rather lose my time defending Michael Jackson's side than try to support a bunch of proven liars and a failed comedian no one ever head about!

2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Weezy is entitled to post pictures of Gavin, as she knows him personally. 'Vigilantes' making a slanderous blog and releasing private information about anyone who is trying to remain hidden is disgusting."


The blog relies on facts that were proven in a court of law!!!

There's nothing slanderous on that blog, whatever is being reported there they brounght it upon themselves!

2:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the uninformed readers of this blog, there was NEVER an allegation of rape in this case. If there had been there would have been physical evidence of such. There was also no allegation of force or restraint, just Gavin on the stand enraged about being IGNORED by Michael Jackson.

All of the above is meaningless, however. None of the Arvizo-Jacksons were believed by the 12 jurors who rendered their verdict, regardless of a few recantations in order to profit off of their experience.

3:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Weezy is entitled to post pictures of Gavin, as she knows him personally."

Yet, at the same time, she says they want anonymity. Allowing Palanker to display their pictures on this blog, is not a way of promoting anonymity. If it is anonymity they wanted, it is anonymity they would have maintained, and they would not have displayed pictures of themselves on their own blogs, nor allowed Palanker to display their pictures. Of course, the Arvizos always were about fame.

"con artists take material goods, but rapists ruin lives and create more of themselves in society."

Read the court transcripts, compare them to the grand jury transcripts, and you will see that the Arvizos are all liars. People who have been molested do not run to civil lawyers, they contact the police. Did the Arvizos contact the police? NEVER! Did Michael Jackson's first accuser's family contact the police? NEVER! Did they all want money? YES! Did they all lie to Michael Jackson? YES! There is no proof that Michael Jackson has ever molested anyone, only the words from those who are proven liars.

3:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please disavow yourselves of the notion that everyone posting here who disagrees with the likes of Weezy are Michael Jackson fans. I dislike media lynchings of anyone who has had their day in court with a rendered verdict. I will not stand by while you leeches attempt to destroy another human being, especially one who has never publically spoken ill of anyone.

3:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gavin sought out Michael Jackson... had his comedian friends running around trying to make contact with Michael Jackson, even announcing on TV how this cancer-stricken teen wanted nothing more than to meet Michael Jackson.

Gavin and Star asked their father if they could stay with Michael Jackson instead of the guest house, in front of their mother, Janet. Both of these saints saw no problem while knowing of the '93 allegations.

Janet Arvizo-Jackson asked Michael Jackson if her kids could call Michael Jackson "Daddy."

Can you supporters of these con artists spell S-E-T-U-P?

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We have certainly been asking this question for nearly the last two years as pop music legend Michael Jackson was raped over the coals of radical white feminist talking heads like Wendy Murphy who constantly called Jackson a “Teflon child molester” who gets away with abusing young boys. We are dumbfounded that so many supposedly well-educated, articulate, and “fair-minded” commentators could be so determined to believe Jackson was guilty that they would even intentionally misrepresent court testimony and evidence to the contrary to make themselves feel better."

http://www.edgymatters.blogspot.com/

3:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people who firmly believe that he didn't do it, and could never do it begin and end their day with that tenant as the basis for all reasoning that follows.

I think you mean "tenet", not tenant.

3:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said, "I think you mean "tenet", not tenant."

That's just one of many. But then anyone who would allow themselves to be conned out of $20,000 can't be too bright.

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing that some posters fling insults about a person's looks. First off, they're untrue remarks, and secondly, I bet some of you making them, aren't being crowned Ms. America anytime soon.

I find when someone can't come up with any type of intelligent response, they just fling insults that are meaningless and show some type of empty rage.

If Weezy wishes to support the family, and she's made statements trying to be as polite as possible to the bulk of fans, then she's entitled to her opinion. I think some of you

As for the person stating Michael Jackson left the US due to death threats, ought to back up their comments with facts, or you just look like a stupid jackass. You bet he left due to not being extradicted. He wants to avoid all the lawsuits and money he owes everyone. That information has been printed. You can go to TSG to read the transcripts.

4:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael Jackson is sick, twisted, hideous and the most visibly damaged (both physically and psychologically) person I've ever seen. He is definitely on the path to his deserved horrid end, whether it be through drugs, alcohol, or both. He deserves hell for the years of lies and disingenuous, self-serving manipulation of children he's engaged in. The only thing worse than seeing this monster is seeing the rage and mental contortionism of his fans. They truly deserve each other! They're the perfect partners in delusion and denial.

Happy holidays to Gavin and family... you deserve peace! We love you.

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOOD THING THAT YOU POSTED THOSE PUNKS4 FACES IN HQ... I HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO CIRCULATE THOSE PIX TO MAKE THEM AS POPULAR AS MICHAEL JACKSON HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!

AFTER AIN'T THAT WHAT THEY ASPIRED TO????

ITS XMAS, I WOULD FEEL BAD FOR THEM IF THEY ONLY GOT LOVE THEY4RE SO POOR!!!!!

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He deserves hell for the years of lies and disingenuous, self-serving manipulation of children he's engaged in. The only thing worse than seeing this monster is seeing the rage and mental contortionism of his fans."

WHAT YOU HAVE JUST WITNESSED COULD BE THE END OF A PARTICULARLY TERRIFYING NIGHTMARE, IT ISNT ITS THE BEGINING.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Amazing that some posters fling insults about a person's looks. First off, they're untrue remarks, and secondly, I bet some of you making them, aren't being crowned Ms. America anytime soon.

I find when someone can't come up with any type of intelligent response, they just fling insults that are meaningless and show some type of empty rage."


That shpould tell you a lot about Weezy given the many jokes she's made about Michael JAckson's looks!

moot moot

4:40 PM  
Blogger Night Owl! said...

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4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gavin Anton Arvizo Jackson is sick, twisted, hideous and the most visibly damaged (both physically and psychologically) person I've ever seen. He is definitely on the path to his deserved horrid end, whether it be through drugs, alcohol, or both. He deserves hell for the years of lies and disingenuous, self-serving manipulation he's engaged in. The only thing worse than seeing this monster is seeing the rage and mental contortionism of Weezy, Dimond and his fans. They truly deserve each other! They're the perfect partners in delusion and denial.

Happy holidays to Michael Jackson and family... you deserve peace! We love you.

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, liarvizo (wow, that little play on words is pretty creative, coming from a fanumbskull!), thanks for reprinting that letter... somehow i missed the line inviting michael's hand into his shorts... please highlight it for us all.

thanks in advance!

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Dear Daddy Michael. How are you. I can’t wait to see you again and play with you at Neverland, because we are going to be best friends and you are my daddy forever. You are the finest grown-up in the world. I love you, Daddy Michael. And tell my little brother and little sister that I love and care about them. Thank you for everything, Daddy.

Thank you for being my Daddy Michael. Thank you for helping me be happy and beat cancer. Happy Daddy’s Day, and I love you more.

Love, your Doo-Doo Head, Gavin Arvizo.

And then there’s a heart and there’s print inside the heart that says, “I love my Daddy Michael forever”.
P.S.: Please give me your new phone numbers, because I miss talking to you. My phone number is 626-452-1693.

Charming letter from Gavin in a purple envelope addressed to “Daddy Michael, from your son Gavin”


Gavin and his mother sure are innocent people hahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahh

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have so much respect for the Arvizo-Jackson family. you have been dragged through the dirt this year and you young men look wonderful in the pics. i know you're strong and will continue to grow stronger.

your tormentor will not escape home-free. he is paying dearly and will continue to pay dearly with the public rejecting him en mass. he carries his own hell with him 24/7.

much love and happiness to all of you, not just for christmas, but for always. oxoxox

From Floh

4:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to wish you, and your families, a wonderful Holiday Season.
Thank you for your cards, your letters, your love, and your support.
I love you all!

Sincerely,
Michael Jackson

5:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone posted that it is easy to sue for slander. Well, Weezy, I guess MJ can sue you for your constant slander of him because he was FOUND INNOCENT 14 TIMES!!!! and you keep slandering him every chance you get. You proved yourself a fool on that witness stand and you prove yourself a fool now. That family conned you out of $20,000 and when JanUt called you and asked you for help, you said "NO". I give you credit that time, because you allowed yourself to not get fooled that one time. I personally think you are just getting into the game to get your own 15 minutes of fame. You've taken a misfortune of someone's life and ran with it for your own selfish greed. You don't give a damn about Gavin. If you did, then you would try getting him away from the clutches of that crazy mother of his who is about to go to trial for welfare fraud. I wonder if JC Penny, that newspaper and all the others that she and her children conned will go after her next. I hope so, because the likes of her don't belong on our streets, but behind bars where she belongs. She has wasted too much of the taxpayer's hard earned money.

I'm sure you'll delete this post because you don't want your own "followers" to hear the truth. And for you "followers" go to the SB website and read the trnascripts for yourselves. You can either one, educate yourself, or two, keep running blindly behind people that are only about twisting the facts for their own twisted humor and to get their face on CNN and FOX News.

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some people are enjoying their FREE time... not everybody it seems!!!

JANET IS GOING TO JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

5:05 PM  
Blogger Night Owl! said...

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5:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Palanker is only in this because she and Masada want to hide the truth of the Laugh Factory. I bet you anything that there is alot of money laundering going on there. That is where the FBI should be fishing, but hey...maybe they already are. :)

NOTE TO (REAL) COMICS:

WATCH YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU ENTER THE LAUGH FACTORY and if they say they are raising funds for ......, ASK QUESTIONS AND DON'T JUST ASSUME THAT MONEY YOU GAVE THEM IS GOING TO SOME CHARITY. MORE THAN LIKELY IT IS GOING INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS!

5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

liarvizo, you didn't hit a nerve so much as tickle me... and, hey, thanks for being honest... you're that rare MJ fan who's willing to actually say what is not often put out there by the fans: namely, that you don't really care that MJ fondled, or otherwise molested this boy. MJ's the real victim, HE was the one taken advantage of and misused and HE was the one whose trust was violated... all in spite of MJ's security, layers of advisors, spokespeople, family, attorneys... HE's the true victim...HE's the one strong-armed by a wiley 13 year-old boy who he couldn't resist. nothin' like blaming the victim! like i posted earlier: you and MJ deserve each other. you're united in your twisted world view and delusional thinking. your "child pickpockets are molest-able" view is bizarre to the point of absurdity.

see? i'm just a fun-lover like you, too!

5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My my. Look at the typical wacko jacko fans swarming this place. I've often wondered how you manage to be the way you all are.

Brainless, cowardly, no sense of reality. Instead of showing support for your chosen one, you "boldly" and blindly attack a young man who plainly has far more courage than you.

I think it's safe to say none of you jackson fans would have the moxie to stand up and admit being molested. Then again, you being jackson fans, you're the spawn of a molester.

The delicious irony is that you fans keep showcasing your consistent ignorance for all to see and laugh at. Please continue, you're making excellent joke fodder for other forums.

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sitting here, reading through today's comments is truly astounding. It's like crawling into the mind of a maniac. The fact that anyone could harbor such evil for a molestation victim is hard enough to fathom. But factor in that the ill-wisher is a fan of a man known only for making mouth noises over disco, who hasn't done anything of note in the last twenty years other than get into embarassing situations with small boys and mutilate himself, and the situation becomes absurd.

We've strayed from the original topic, the welfare of the child, and delved back into the vagaries of celebrity justice. Michael Jackson has indeed has his day in court. One which has caused him to relocate to a country with no extradition treaty with the US. His financial and personal downfall is quickly playing itself out.

What happened to him is not the matter here. What is more important is the welfare of a child being stalked by the deranged fans of a long-since faded purveyor of disco music. I can only hope that the pressure put on the victim's friends has galvanized them into concern for the boy rather than causing them to alienate him.

I suppose there's nothing we members of the general public can do other than send the family our well wishes and voice our concerns to the authorities.

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. I just happened to see a link for your blog and thought I'd check it out. I didn't follow the trial very closely so I didn't have an opinion one way or the other. I am shocked, more like stunned. I can't believe that the Michael Jackson fans are still trying this case. It was over six months ago. He was aquitted. What more do you want? What kind of person has fans like this? I'm starting to think the man must be as sick as you all are. I'm starting to believe that everything I've seen in the media must be true. I really think fans reflect the star. You fans have really turned me against Michael Jackson. I have about 25 friends and family here for our annual get-together and we have all been reading the blog since this morning. We ALL feel the same way! After reading this we will never think of Michael Jackson in a positive way because of his fans' behavior. Very sad.

5:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What happened to him is not the matter here. What is more important is the welfare of a child being stalked by the deranged fans of a long-since faded purveyor of disco music."

No what happened to him isn't the matter here, the matter here is what he did to Michael Jackson!
If we're as deranged as you say, get ready cause you're gonna have to bear with us for quite a while!!!

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No offense meant to Weezy but I'd rather be a Michael Jackson fan than a Louise "who?" Plonker fan!!! And that is an understatement really!!!

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no, actually it is the likes of Ms. Palanker, the media and the SB DA's office that can't get over it. THEY LOST! Yet, they think it is cute to continuously slander Michael Jackson. TRUTH is on the side of Michael and his fans. The fans are not making up the court transcripts. Go read them for yourselves. The fans already followed this case. Yet, Ms. Polanker and her cohorts are still trying to damage Mr. Jackson's name. As long as they continue to do what they are doing, then us Michael Jackson fans will continue to do what we are doing. The Arvizo family are NOT VICTIMS! They are SCAM ARTISTS!!! Don't you want to know that those that use your tax money for their own greed? Or maybe you are just like them. Maybe you have no problem someone lying and trying to destroy a person's life for their own financial gain.

Ms. Palanker, your 15 minutes are almost up. Nobody cares about you except for the very few that come here and kiss your ass. YOU ARE NOT FUNNY! ACCEPT IT! Your jokes are lame. Tip: Do not ever go try out at the Apollo Theatre because you will be booed offstage with your unfunny ass. But you could just stand there in the middle of stage and get tons of laughs, just don't say anything. ;)

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Has there ever been a more deranged and ignorant following than wacko fans?

The trial is over MJ fans. Your pedo won the trial and lost the overall war. He's about to lose everything else, and instead of trying to figure out a way to help your hero, you're engaging in acts of self mutilation.

MJ fans. What a bunch of dimbulb halfwits. Did ANY of you manage to escape grammar school diploma in hand?

5:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I suppose there's nothing we members of the general public can do other than send the family our well wishes and voice our concerns to the authorities."

Yes please do send your well wishes, Janet is gonna need them a she faces 5 welfare fraud charges... meanwhile we'll send her our well wishes!

5:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some fan wrote:

**No what happened to him isn't the matter here, the matter here is what he did to Michael Jackson!
If we're as deranged as you say, get ready cause you're gonna have to bear with us for quite a while!!! **


Look, I know you f'loons have a hard time seperating Michael from the rest of reality, but this blog is about the victim's welfare. I suggest that if you want to trade vicious barbs about Wacko that you journey to Usenet's alt.music.michael-jackson. They greedily await folks like you there, having chased the rest of your flock out some time ago.

5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The trial is over MJ fans. Your pedo won the trial and lost the overall war."

Partyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy we won the trial... as for the overall war, Janet has already lost, Jackson is enjoying his life while Janet is expecting jail time!!!!

PArty yall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blatant display of ignorance noted, again.

I see you have no concern for Michael Jackson whatsoever.

5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War? Yeah, I'm sure you Bush loving, kill em and destroy them cuz they aren't like us folks love war!

War has only just begun. :) We are MJ's 'Army of Love'! We have the truth on our side. Go educate yourself on those court transcripts. Go ready Ms. Palanker's testimony. Go read how Gavin was more upset that he felt MJ didn't want to see him anymore compared to when he was describing when MJ molested him two, no maybe it was three times. Gavin couldn't even remember the simplest of details. Oh and ask Gavin, Star, Davelin and Janet if there are any clocks at Neverland. Now THAT was funny! hahahaha Oh...that and the hot air balloon story had me in fits of laughter for days. Now, I think Janet could get a standing ovation at the Apollo with her stories, because the hot air balloon, the bikini wax, the clock story and the licking of Gavin's head was funny as hell. She should get with Evan Chandler and see if they can come up with their own movie script. I'm sure the public can handler another "Dumb and Dummer II" movie. hahahaha

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumb and dumber is right. Check it out folks. More delusional ranting from an MJ fan.

5:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PARTY TIME!!!!

Let's go to the Laugh Factory and have our party there. You think Louise will perform for us? LOL

5:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WILL THE REAL JANET JACKSON PLEASE STAND UP????

5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY WOULD GAVIN ANTON ARVIZO CHANGE HIS NAME TO THE LAST NAME OF THE MAN THAT HE CLAIMS MOLESTED HIM?

WHY WOULD JANET ARVIZO CHANGE HER NAME TO THE EXACT SAME NAME AS THE SISTER OF THE MAN THAT SHE IS ACCUSSING OF MOLESTING HER SON???


Those are two questions that you Arvizo-Jackson sympathizers cannot get passed. Just because Jay's last name is "Jackson" does not mean that Gavin and his siblings had to change their names to that name. They could have chosen ANY NAME, but yet they are so dillusional and stuck on Michael Jackson that they want to continue to have a piece of him.

They are the ones that are WACKOS!

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe using the last name, "jackson" is an insult?

It certainly would be to me.

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spme errrmmm..."challenged" indivisual wrote:

**Those are two questions that you Arvizo-Jackson sympathizers cannot get passed.**

Yes, much like a gallstone, or a cheese-heavy diet, it's hard to get 'passed'. The fact that it's the step-father's last name might be a significant clue.


**Just because Jay's last name is "Jackson" does not mean that Gavin and his siblings had to change their names to that name. They could have chosen ANY NAME**


Yes, I think "Sunshine Vacuum" and "Sunstroke Diva" would have been good choices, but they went for that whole 'cohesive family' option.

**but yet they are so dillusional **

Isn't dillusion a pickle disease?

**and stuck on Michael Jackson that they want to continue to have a piece of him.**

It was the name or the end of his nose. I think they made the wise choice.

6:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I think it's safe to say none of you jackson fans would have the moxie to stand up and admit being molested. Then again, you being jackson fans, you're the spawn of a molester."

Unlike the Arvizos, decent people don't create false accusations in order to instantly pocket millions, but when millions are at stake, the Arvizos will do anything, including standing up and alleging molestation. And accusing Michael Jackson of molestation, wasn't the first time the Arvizos used sexual abuse as an excuse to get something they wanted. Are you aware of that? If not, read the transcripts, and locate legal and police documents pertaining to the Arvizos, and you'll discover exactly how disgusting the Arvizos are.

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so you believe MJ was gonna put them on a hot air balloon, too? LOL!

How about how excited JanUt got excited about seeing her passport for the first time when she claimed that MJ's lynchmen made her go get it so they could kidnap them to Brazil where there were no telephones or Americans. LOL

6:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, we should create a 'JanUt Jackson Comedy Hour' website of the funniest things that JanUt Arvizo-Jackson said on the stand. It certainly would keep one laughing for days! hahaha

6:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"we should create a 'JanUt Jackson Comedy Hour' website of the funniest things that JanUt Arvizo-Jackson said on the stand. It certainly would keep one laughing for days!"

Even JanUt Arvizo is funnier than Weezy. lol.

6:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hell Bush is funnier than Weezy! lol

And why she gotta be Weezy for? When I hear that name, I think of the Jeffersons. Weezy, you ain't black, you ain't funny and you ain't smart! LOL You are a FOOL that got fooled out of $20,000! *shakes head* Weezy, can I have $5,000? I need some blud and keedney too. LOL *wink*

6:35 PM  
Blogger Louise Palanker said...

Thank you to the "anonymous" who gave me the spell-check on "tenet."

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone wrote:

**Unlike the Arvizos, decent people don't create false accusations in order to instantly pocket millions**


That's right, how is that civil suit going?

Wait, you mean they didn't file one?

That sure is a funny way to 'pocket millions'.

Here's to hoping they *do* file a civil suit.

Of course, deadbeat Jackson couldn't pay an award, anyway.

7:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hasn't Gavin's mother been charged with welfare fraud? That means she stole from the government right?

7:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone wrote:

**Hasn't Gavin's mother been charged with welfare fraud?**

To the best of my knowledge.


**That means she stole from the government right? **

That remains to be seen. Now that we've established that, I have two questions.

1. What does the victim's mother's court affairs have to do with Michael jackson's predatory child abuse?

2. What does any of this have to do with deranged disco fans stalking a child?

7:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When F'loons Attack! sounds like a b-movie title. :)

really, it's sad that f'loons choose to disrupt messages to Gavin wishing him and his family well with their hate-filled, lunatic barbs.

i wrote a note to the Arvizo-Jackson's and someone with real insecurity issues copied my note except they changed my well-wishes to well-wishing of Michael Jackson. See here and then roll up further to see my intended message:

Anonymous said...
I have so much respect for the Michael Jackson family. You have been dragged through the dirt this year and you and your children looked wonderful in the pics from London. I know you're strong and will continue to grow stronger.

Your tormentor will not escape home-free. He is paying dearly and will continue to pay dearly with the public rejecting him en mass. He carries his own hell with him 24/7.

Much love and happiness to all of you, not just for christmas, but for always. oxoxox

From Floh

5:11 PM


even copying my moniker. :rolls eyes:

respect for the Michael Jackson family? not on your nelly!

Love to the Arvizo-Jacksons, Floh

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Losal, you seem like maybe you're a nice person so I'm sincere here. You can read every word in the transcript and see that they can be interpreted in different ways. People listen to what they hear or what they read and they put it into context, mix in logic and some critical thinking, view it backed up with life experiences and come to some sort of conclusion as to whether it's believable or not. This is how I decided that more likely than not, Gavin is telling the truth. I really believe he is.

What I see from the fans is what the MJ camp or the Alpha fans have decided is the truth. It's as if you were all given the same script. I see no critically thinking fans, I see no logic being applied. You all take everything literally and you miss what common sense tells the rest of us is true. It's like you've all been brainwashed. I see a lot fans in the various forums saying that this doesn't make sense or that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense because it's not true! You need to take a huge step back and look at the WHOLE big picture here. Quit looking at the little bits one by one. Really now, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, don't you think maybe it MIGHT be a duck?

If you don't get what I'm saying, there's no hope you'll ever understand our side. We understand where you're coming from but you don't seem to get us. Too bad.

8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Murderer

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10:10 PM  
Blogger sarah said...

Do you know what I thought when I looked at the picture of Gavin? How much he looks like Jordan Chandler! He has grown up to be a handsome young man. But Gavin has more in common with Jordy than just looks. They were both victimised and used for his own gratification by the biggest con-artist of the century. Don't worry I bought Thriller, danced to Billie Jean and dreamed of marrying MJ until I realised that girls weren't his thing and that little boys were. we've all loved him at some stage in our lives, but most of us are now mothers, aunts and godparents and most of us can't condone middle aged men (who look really weird) sleeping in bed with unrelated kids. Why always dark handsome white 13 year old boys. Why the headlicking and dirty talk and "I want to show you how to do it" conversation. Check the facts he said it to both boys word for word and only God know how many others that weren't brave enough to come forward. He probably said it to Robson, Barnes and Culkin, but they are still so awestruck by him that they didn't tell the truth! Gavin did, but the blinding light of MJ's celebrity blinded 12 pairs of eyes and a serial child molester walked free. Or did he, the day he was accquited he didn't look like a free man to me, he looked like a drugged up zombie who didn't even understand the verdict. Michael Jackson was far from free, he had to live with himself. Why do you think he needed Propfol to sleep at night.

5:43 AM  

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